A meeting with the monsignors

Mrs. R went to confession with a monsignor. The following week I got a call from the monsignor telling me, "When are you going to stop defrauding people, doing things that God does not like, committing the sin of superstition and getting involved in the supernatural?" When he finally got through his list of accusations I took a deep breath and asked him a question: "Monsignor, how do you know so much about us? Have you come to our meetings?" He answered, "I do not have to go to know." This was when I got the idea he had heard about us in confessions.

"Father," I said, "that is our field of research - a way to get information at a distance. What method are you using? You must be using your psychic abilities." Then the monsignor said, "I sent spies to your meetings, that is how I know." He could not admit he got the information through confessions. I told him, "Father, you do not need to send spies to our meetings. The doors are always open to everyone, especially to all priests."

The monsignor then told me, "We have set a day to meet with you and discuss your situation because you could be excommunicated." He told me the date and hung up. When I told my priest friends what had happened they wanted to accompany me to the meeting, but I said, "Let me go by myself. If I need you, I will give you a call."

The day of the meeting I arrived fifteen minutes ahead of time and waited. There were three monsignors to discuss my case. One monsignor said, "You, Mr. Silva, have been dealing fraud, doing things that God does not like, committing the sin of superstition and getting involved in the supernatural. We have proof from other sources that agree with what we have just said and it may be enough to request your excommunication."

The monsignor handed me a letter to read, hinting that there were others. The letter from a well-known Laredo lawyer asked, "When are we going to get rid of these cranks" meaning us. I then said, "Monsignor, if this is the kind of proof that you have, it is all hearsay, because this man has never been to our meetings." With that I put the letter down.

"Now about what you have just said that I am doing," I continued. "I would like to get something straight in my mind. Before I answer you on each and every one of your accusations I want to be sure I understand what excommunication means. Does it mean that I will not be allowed to practice the sacraments?" They said, "That is correct." I then continued, "And does it mean that when I die I will not be buried in a Catholic cemetery" Again they answered that I was correct. "I think I understand what is meant by excommunication," I said. "Now let me tell you monsignors something."

"At one time in my life I wondered why I was a Catholic. Was it because my parents were Catholic? Suppose my parents were Catholic by mistake, I would then be propagating their mistake. Because of this concern I took it upon myself to study the beginning of all religions. I studied by whom, when and for what reasons and under what conditions they began. What I found," I told the monsignors, "was that all religions are good and I realized that the main purpose of a religion is to enhance the spiritual factor in the human being. That is, religion should enhance the spiritual factor that separates the human from being a common beast. It is through the spiritual factor that we recognize our association with our Creator, God.

"I also understood enough to recognize the difference between human intelligence and biological intelligence," I continued. "I understood that human intelligence and the human mind function spiritually, in a spiritual dimension. I realized that it is through human intelligence and the human mind functioning in a spiritual dimension that we can enhance the spiritual factor." The monsignors looked at each other and appeared not to understand what I had just said. I continued, "Now, all religions are good because they appear to be doing their best at enhancing the spiritual factor of the human being. The only thing that we need to watch out for is their representatives." I was pretty prophetic on this, considering the Jonestown catastrophe that took place some years later.

Then I asked the monsignors, "Is religion for the human mind or for the human body?" The monsignors looked at each other again and one replied, "The human mind." "All right," I said, touching my head with both hands, "since I have concluded that all religions are roads to the same God, whether we believe it or not, and my religion is as good as any other, I have decided with my human intelligence and my mind to remain a Catholic and die as a Catholic whether you monsignors, the bishop or the pope like it or not. So excommunication does not frighten me. You do what you need to do.

"Now about the next subject," I continued. "You mentioned that I was dealing in fraud. How can I defraud anybody when I have served everybody free of charge?" I asked. As it turned out it was very fortunate that I had never charged anyone for my services. In fact, considering all the time my research had taken away from my business and all the things that had happened to me and my family, fraud was a pretty silly accusation.

"The second thing you mentioned was that God did not like what I was doing," I went on. "My question on that to you is: Just how did you monsignors happen to know that God did not like what I am dong? Do you have a direct line with God? If so," I said, "call God right now and see what He says. I will wait right here." I folded my arms. The monsignors looked at each other and without waiting for an answer from them I continued, "Because I cannot perceive the Creator not wanting me to patch up and correct problems of creation along with alleviating the suffering of creatures."

"Let us skip that subject for now," I continued, "and consider the third thing you mentioned. You said I was committing the sin of superstition. As I understand it, I would be committing the sin of superstition if I believed in, delved in, or attributed to myself supernatural powers that I do not have. I am a common human being," I told them. "I have never considered or believed that I was delving into the supernatural. I believe that the ones who are committing the sin of superstition are the ones who are saying that I am delving into the supernatural. They are the ones who are attributing to me powers that I do not have.

"Now let us," I said, "go into the fourth thing mentioned here: delving into the supernatural. First" I asked, "do any of you know what parapsychology is?" They looked at each other and said "No." "Well," I said, "parapsychology may yet become the science that has cientists (though they do not have them now) who can define and draw a line between the normal and the supernormal and also define and draw a line between the supernormal and the supernatural."

"You see," I said, "many mistake supernormal for the supernatural and right now nobody can define or draw lines in these areas. What I want to say to you, monsignors, is that since you do not know what parapsychology is and knowing that scientist who could define and draw the lines between these areas do not exist, I am now saying that you, monsignors, are not qualified to tell me to do or not to do what you do not know that I am dong."

They agreed that I was right on this. Then I added, "Please get off my back. I have a lot more to do in this area, so please leave me alone! My work in this area is very difficult and surely do not need these side problems to worry about."

We parted ways when the monsignor made the sign of the cross, saying, "May God bless you and if this is what God wants, nobody is going to be able to stop you." I answered, "That is what I believe and nobody is ever going to be able to stop me. Thank you," I added. "Good bye and may God bless you also."

These monsignors never bothered me again and I have remained an active member of the Catholic church and attend services every Sunday, unless my lecture schedule prevents it. At this writing two of these monsignors have already passed on and the third is now retired.

There was one last incident to this story. A few years after the experience with the monsignors and when we were presenting the method I developed all over the United States and in many other countries throughout the world, my brother Juan was driving me 150 miles to San Antonio to catch a plane. It was a foggy day and planes were not flying out of Laredo. Just as I was ready to board the plane in San Antonio I saw one of the monsignors ahead of me, boarding the same plane. When I saw him I motioned to Juan and pointed to the monsignor. My brother saw him, shrugged his shoulders and put an expression on his face like, "Sorry about that."

"The plane is so big," I thought to myself, "and has so many seats that I do not have to see him, nor he see me." That is what I thought. That is what I hoped. After the ordeal he put me through, I did not want any part of him.

As I reached my assigned seat number, there was the monsignor in the very next seat! His face was covered by the newspaper he was reading, but as he turned the page he saw me and said, "Hi, Jose. I see you are also traveling. I am on a thirty-day vacation," he continued. "I am going o spend some time in St Thomas and from there I will spend the rest of my vacation in New York City where I have some relatives." Then he asked me where I was going.

"I am going to Venezuela to present a series of lectures about our work," I answered.

The monsignor then said, "I have heard many good things about your work." I answered, "Thank God." Then he went on to say, "When you have your next session in Laredo, let me know. I want to attend." I thought to myself, "Let him find out on his own." I think I was still a little resentful about the excommunication experience.

The one good thing that came from the whole excommunication matter was that from then on the priests stopped saying that we were working for the devil. In fact, they began to come and take part in our work. At the time of this writing thousands of religious people from all denominations, including Catholics, have been trained by the Silva Method throughout the world and many religious people are helping to train others with the Silva Method.

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